"Comancheros"
First and Finest
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On 7 December 1950, the 4th Light Aviation Section was constituted in the Regular Army and was assigned to the Eighth US Army in Korea where it remained until deactivated on 5 November 1954.
The 4th Light Aviation Section was reactivated on 1 July 1956 as the 101st Aviation Company and assigned to the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. On 3 December 1962, as the Army's aviation force structure continued to grow, the 101st Aviation Company was redesignated as the 101st Aviation Battalion.
After the colors were returned from Vietnam in 09/1966 the Company regrouped, acquired assets and trained at Ft Campbell KY in preparation for it's return deployment to Vietnam.
In 12/1967 Company A returned to Bien Hoa, Vietnam and then moved north to start Camp Eagle in northern I Corp. The division was reconstituted Airmobile in July 1968, and several separate theater aviation elements were reorganized under the 160th Avn Group Later renamed the 101st Aviation Group that included A Company, B Company, C Company, D Company along with Headquarters Company.
01/1969 Redesignated as A Company, Comancheros, The company served until 01/1972, at Camp Eagle, Republic of Vietnam
From 01/1972-10/1987, the Comancheros were stationed at their home in Fort Campbell, KY
The 101st Aviation Battalion was redesignated the
4th Battalion on 16 October 1987 when the 101st Aviation Regiment was activated.
A
Company, 101st Aviation was re-designated as
Alpha Company, 4/101 Aviation Regiment "The Comancheros"
101st
Airborne Division, Fort
Campbell, KY
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The Comanchero Name
A/101st Aviation's was first assigned to Camp Eagle in December of 1967 and their call sign was Alpha Eagle until the first part of 1969. The story behind the renaming from Alpha Eagle to Comancheros;
In 1968 101st Airborne Division got a new commander, General Zais, and he wanted to be having the Eagle 6 call sign for his own. Although the story is that the old timers were not happy about the changing of the call sign. The A/101 veterans had just gone through TET 68 and they were very proud of their performance and the call signs reputation earned in that battle.
However, the search was now on for a new nickname and call sign for A/101. After some very serious discussions in the O Club, Andre "Strange Tom" Thomas, Comanchero 23, Larry "DoDo" Herring, Comanchero 10, and and Capt. Michael Gouch Comanchero 40, from El Paso, Texas, remembered a group called the Comancheroes that existed in the 1830's and lived around the Commanche Indians. They raided both sides of the border and traded with the Indians and such. He remembered them as a despicable bunch, made up of Mexicans, Spaniards, Indians, Blacks and Gringos from varied ethnic backgrounds. The Comancheroes were feared by all of West Texas, trusted by none and loved by few. They, however, did have a common bond of Brotherhood that was to be admired. Capt. Gouch submitted the name for consideration. " The Komancheros" were born.
By Michael Gouch, Comanchero 4
Although the spelling of the name has changed over the years, The very first spelling was Komanchero, then changed to Comanchero, then changed to Commanchero in 1987 and finally in 1999 it was changed back to Comanchero.
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Several views of the Comanchero Company Area at Camp Eagle
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The Comanchero Hideout. Unless you were there at the time you
likely wouldn't believe it - almost unfit for human habitation. This was taken
in either late Nov or early Dec 68. Some time later, starting in about Jan 69,
the Comancheros started a self-help building program and had several neat troop
billets by the time I left at the end of Apr. |
The A/101 AVN Company area, May 1969
Provided by
Augie Uleckas |
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The Comanchero Company area in 1971
Photo By Robert Carr. |
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Building the Hideout at Camp Eagle
When I was with the Comancheros we had a platoon leader named 1LT Larry Herring (I am not sure of the correct spelling of his name). I know he was an architect and he is the one that drew up the plans for our TOC and for the pilots new shower. He made them come to life. A little bit of everyone helped on the TOC. It was made of really thick timbers. We initially tried to cut one with a hand saw and it wore three of us out before we finally gave up and went looking for a chain saw which finally did the trick. The shower came about because one of our pilots had a brother with the Sea Bees out at Eagle Beach and they needed something done that we could help them with so we got a hot water heater from them in exchange for our services. So we endured that Emerson heated shower until we got our new shower/clothes washing building done. I digress though from the purpose of this information, and that is to give credit due to 1LT Herring for his talents. I also heard that he was the individual that drew up the Comanchero patch.
Jerry L. Simpson, Comanchero 18, then Comanchero 42 when we were F Troop 1/17 Cav. Feb 69 to Feb 70.
Victor Anderson remembers building the company area:
It was Larry Herring, (Do-Do), who put together the plans to build the TOC. He
also went on to build the O-Club with a little help from his friends, it was
much nicer than the tent. Later on the he organized the new showers (god were
those nice), and also upgraded a few of the hooch's behind the original ones
that were getting overcrowded. I think you're correct, (Do-DO) did design the
original Comanchero patch.
There were several missions to requisition materials for the
club. In fact I wonder if Gouch remembers the little trip he and I took to Hue
via a jeep from Camp Eagle. We wanted to obtain some items for the club that
would add a little to the atmosphere. We headed off to Hue and when we got there
proceeded to cross over the perfume River Bridge into Hue and then turned off to
the east along a canal. There were a few shops that had nice tiles, bamboo
curtains, etc. We were just starting to get into negotiating with the shop
keepers when a couple of Marine MP's with steel pots, flack jackets, etc.
stopped us and turned us back, apparently there were some bad guys in the area.
Needless to say we didn't argue with them.
There were also several trips to the Marines supply yard in
Phu Bai to get lumber, nails, and other basic materials. It always amazed me
what you could get for a bottle of scotch. If I recall correctly "Weird Harold"
requisitioned an ice machine from Camp Evans but the guys he took it from found
out and we had to return it.
Towards the end of our little jaunt in Chu Lai Larry got a
really sweet deal; he went TDY to Thailand for the remainder of his tour as an
Army artist.
Larry organized a get together of some former Comancheros I
believe in 1974-75 in Oklahoma City. I remember Bobby Scanlan, Mike Gouch,
myself and a few others showed up for the week-end. The last I heard from Larry,
(1976-77), he was engaged and was a practicing architect in OKC.
Victor W. Anderson, Comanchero "22" Double Deuce, 08/1968-08/1969
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Comanchero Unit Organization
In the time of Vietnam, the
tempo and intensity of daily flight operations was relatively high. The company
had twenty UH1H's and normally put up a package of 1 and 10 daily, the 1 being a
console C&C and the 10 being slicks, against a mission array that might include
an assault or two, and then a full range of diverse support missions for various
elements, usually in single ship or two ship missions.
At night, there was a 'nighthawk' mission in a specially
equipped aircraft, and early before daylight, a weather check...Some lucky soul
would have the honor of cranking and sitting on the departure end of the Hideout
'runway' until the fog lifted enough to get out, then would report what he saw.
We averaged about 1600 hours a
month, had our own mess hall, motor pool, communications shack, POL, service
platoon, and aircraft maintenance detachment, even an LOH in the form of an OH-6
that battalion was quick to pool.
For routine assaults, our attack helicopters came from the
battalion attack helicopter company, in 1970-71, D Company, Hawks, had 12 AH-1G
Cobras, and would send a light fire team, two aircraft, to make up what we then
called a "1-10-2" package, e.g. "one, ten, and two". We looked to keep 4 or 5
mission ready aircraft on the ground in the revetments, and 3 or 4 in
maintenance, and made sure the operations officer and the maintenance officer
got along and coordinated well.
Bob Clewell, Company Commander, A/101 AVN, Oct 1970-May 1971
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Video footage of the Comancheros, company area, men & aircraft. Circa 1971 The Comanchero Hideout © Kimball D. Kuehn
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"The Comancheros were the aircraft commanders" by Bob Clewell
In 1971 helicopter pilots who served in A/101 had
to become aircraft commanders in order to get a distinctive call number. In what
were to become the latter days of the Vietnam war, the term "pilot in command"
was also coming more into use to define the authority and responsibilities of
persons in the same aircraft and cockpit. If two persons of the same rank were
assigned to fly together, then one of them would be designated as the pilot in
command. It was rare when military rank got in the way of deciding who was in
charge, but it
undoubtedly happened.
Sometimes in those days, the pilot in command was not an aircraft commander, and
occasionally aircraft commanders were not the pilot in command. The differences
were important. In the Comancheros, the more honorable title was "aircraft
commander", simply put, "A C" . When the call went out, "Land and send the AC's
forward for a briefing", we all knew that something interesting was soon going
to happen.
I Remember the mixed
emotions we had when an experienced "AC" DEROSed? On one hand we hated to see
them go; their departure was viewed with regret and a sense of loss. On the
other hand, we were happy to send them off alive; it was an affirmation that we
too would someday complete our tour of duty.
In our day, newly designated aircraft commanders brought a sense of renewal to
the unit; an affirmation of qualification that made our opportunities for
success better. As I recall, when you got down to it in the old days, it was
aircraft commanders who were responsible to complete the flight mission and to
return safely.
At any given time in early 1971, there were about thirty warrant officers
assigned to the company and ten or so commissioned officers. Each served a year,
and the new ones would arrive every few weeks. Likewise, the experienced pilots
would DEROS.
Generally speaking, a new warrant officer pilot could expect to accumulate
around 300 new combat hours in-Country before he took the AC checkride, and he
had to be nominated by his section leader and confirmed by his platoon commander
to do so. Meanwhile, an old AC who had accumulated ten to twelve hundred hours
would be leaving. "Headed back to the world", we used to say.
The AC checkride was administered by the company instructor pilot, and the
company instructor pilot himself would be a particular aircraft commander in
whom we put an extra measure of confidence and judgment. It wasn't always
something tangible, the prospective company IP would have to pass a check ride
from the battalion standardization instructor pilot before we cut the orders.
You wanted the IP to be someone with an extra measure of maturity and character
as well as high leadership ability, and luckily we always found someone with
just the right mix.
Skill, ability, and good judgment alone were the main factors in becoming an
aircraft commander. Practically speaking, anyone who lasted three hundred hours
already had the necessary skill and ability. Good judgment was another matter.
Good judgment came with experience, his own and someone else's, not just hours
or time in Country. Hence the recommendation by others and the checkride.
Passage was an occasion for celebration in the Hideout. The new aircraft commanders were the lifeblood of the unit so to speak, and the unit was being renewed. Naturally, there was an appropriate ceremony, and for a moment the guy ruled the day. The lucky new guys would be indoctrinated in the famous flaming hooker tradition and encouraged to ring the insidious bell with the best of them. "Hardway" guys were assigned a Comanchero number they liked from what was available. From time to time, the hard numbers would be handed down, almost as brother-to-brother or father-to-son, sometimes in remembrance and sometimes just for the hell of it. The next day, the number would go up on the mission board with the others.
There were some exceptions to this policy, too. Some folks were assigned to
positions that were associated with certain numbers, and these folks got their
numbers whether they passed an aircraft commander's checkride or not. In such
cases, the number ruled the day, not the guy. This might seem a fine distinction
to an outsider. The Comancheros who earned their numbers the hard way sometimes
provided the easy number ones an opportunity to celebrate just the same.
When outsiders talked about the Comancheros in the old days, they meant the
whole unit. We veterans tend to think of the Comancheros as being the whole
unit, and we think of anyone who was ever assigned as being an equal part of it.
It's hard to remember that in the old days and when the bullets were flying,
"The Comancheros" were the aircraft commanders". The passage of time is blurring
the distinction, so it's good to be reminded of it from time to time.
Bob Clewell, Company Commander, A/101 AVN,
Oct 1970-May 1971
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The Comancheros where heavily involved in Lam Son 719 - 1971 Pictures From Lam Son 719 Circa 1971
A 1998 Trip back to Vietnam and Laos The group sitting on top of a M-48 Tank the South Vietnamese left at Lam Dong. L to R - Bob Morris, Paul Clewell, Rachel Torrance, Bob Clewell, Ray Ferrante, and two Vietnamese guides. (photo courtesy of Bob Clewell) |
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"Just say
it was the Comancheros"
A poem written by Jay Tate, Comanchero
26/666, dedicated to the late Frank Duncan, Comanchero 10, who
lost his
battle with cancer 2/8/99. |
The
Comancheros "Business
Card"
Comancheros
in RVN carried this card and the Comancheros of A 4/101 AVN are now carrying
the exact same card. |
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The Hideout Club Photograph provided by Stephen “Smokey” Stover |
The Hideout Club Photograph provided by Stephen “Smokey” Stover |
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Comanchero company area 1970 Photograph provided by Joe Turner |
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Alpha & Eagle rug and Komanchero cartoon in the Hideout (O
Club) |
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This is the legendary Khe Shan airstrip in the NE corner of RVN. The picture was taken in 1970 pre Lam Son 719 while the airstrip was unoccupied by any “US” personnel. If you look closely in the center of the picture you can see "A101" that was painted on the strip by a A/101 AVN crew while on a CCN mission (names withheld to protect the guilty)
Picture provided by Martin DiOrio |
Helmet decal submitted by
Stephen Cipot, all rights reserved |
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The 101st Aviation Battalion (Assault Helicopter) was awarded The Superior Unit Award for their Outstanding Meritorious Performance in the Republic of Honduras during 1983-84 Provided by Dan Gore |
101st Airborne sends 1000 troops to Honduras, August 26, 1983, Provided by Dan Gore |
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Doug Kibbey's 2005 Trip back to Vietnam - Then and now photograph of I Corp and Camp Eagle |
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A/101 Avn changes to D/101 Aviation
After A/101 returned from Vietnam, the Battalion swapped assets between A/101 and D/101. That is, the A. Co. became the Gunship Cmpany. and D. Co. became the Slick Company. I was a crew chief in D Co. and we were proudly known as the "Comancheros". It was our unit that later became A 4/101.
I will try to tell you what I remember about the D/101 Comancheros. My perspective for the most part is that of an 19 year old . I was assigned to D/101 from 4/1974 to 7/1976. I was an E-2 and was assigned right away to one of the flight platoons as a crew chief. I was one of the few school trained 67N's. When I first got there the company was so desperate for crew chiefs they were getting them from the motor pool. The draftees were leaving the Army and their was no one to take their place. A "shake and bake" Vietnam Vet Spec 5 was my mentor when I arrived. He made sure I learned to crew a Huey the right way. The pilots were a mixture of Vietnam Vets and guys right out of Flight School. Two of the Vets who I know were in the the Battalion during Vietnam were CW2 Gene (Ray) Howell and CW2 RC Morgan.
During this time D Company started to change from the tactics learned during Vietnam. Our emphasis was on fighting a "mid-intensity" conflict in Europe. We went from doing tight 10-15 ship staggered daytime insertions to an LZ, to night time cross FEBA loose V formations with the formation tightening up on short final. We pioneered night operations that are now taken for granted today. NOE as a doctrine was also pioneered by the 101st. D/101 provided Aircraft to the NOE school which was started at Ft Campbell. One of our aircraft was destroyed while being used by the school with pilots not assigned to our unit. While I was with D/101 we had one fatality. During a Division level field training exercise the Group and Battalion Safety Officer tried to beat a thunderstorm while returning to Campbell AAF. They didn't make it. After searching all night we found the aircraft. Only the tail boom was recognizable. The two pilots, and a crew chief who from our unit, PFC Cowan, were killed. During the summer we did a lot of TDY. We "fought" battles in North and South Carolina, New York, New Hampshire, and Georgia. We always kicked ass too. During the winter we stayed pretty close to home and had FTXs out on the reservation. Although I was never shot at, it was still a hard life for a crew chief. Formation at 6:30, then go out to the airfield. If our unit wasn't flying then we were usually getting the aircraft ready to support the NOE or Instrument training school. The crew chief during those days sat behind and between the pilots in the jump seat. The PAX did not sit on the floor like in Vietnam, they sat in seats that were back to back. Every time we picked up troops (even during CA's) I had to get out of the aircraft and make sure the troops were buckled in. Come to think of it, it's a good thing no one was shooting. As I said, a lot of our activity was at night, so it was not uncommon to finish a mission at one or two in the morning, daily and cover the aircraft, and have to report for formation at 6:30am the next day. Crew rest wasn't discussed much when came to crew chiefs.
Although we thought of ourselves as the best flying unit in the 101st (and WAY better than those Kingsmen and Black Widows!) we did not seem to have E'spirt de Corps that your era or A 4/101 have. Maybe it was Watergate or the post war trauma or Jimmy Carter's malaise, I don't know. Most of the people in my unit, Officers and Enlisted, just seemed to be marking time until something better came along.
I've been watching this site for two years and I seem to be the only one from my era with any interest about the Comanchero web site. I guess this why D/101 was overlooked. I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures from this time, some how, they ended up lost. This post is kind of a colloquial snap shot of the era.
Tom Cavanaugh, 04/1974 - 07/1976, D/101 Avn Comanchero
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